Misha Kuperman, Chief Reliability Officer at Zscaler is back on the podcast. In this episode he and Mattias Fridström discuss if the recent trade tariffs will impact services from Zscaler, whether people in general understand cloud connectivity, if security in the cloud is just a waste of bandwidth resources, what customers know about the public internet, if security standards in telecoms are important, and what security trends we will see in enterprise networking in five years’ time.