Kathy is the CEO of Children England and one of the founders of A Better Way. In this episode, Polly and Roger talk to her about…

…How competition and contracting have wasted energy and money and undermined trust, collaboration and purpose

…Who should be the catalysts for change and how we need to listen

…Lessons to be learned from local, decentralised successes

…Kathy’s journey from practitioner to policy influencer and changemaker

Kathy can be reached via: 

https://www.childrenengland.org.uk

Get more from A Better Way Network at https://www.betterway.network/ 

Podcast hosts, Polly Neate and Roger Martin, can be reached via this email [email protected], or their respective websites:

http://www.shelter.org.uk

http://www.rogermartin.me