Tomas Björkman talks to Jim about the danger of reifying systems, understanding the Bildung, what made the Nordic countries exceptional, inner development, Scandinavia's retreat centers, cultural modernity, the self-authoring shift & emergent levels in psychological development, influential philosophers & their impact on education, the role of romanticism, the role of Freemasonry, the spread of the folk-Bildung in Scandinavia, expanding our circles of belonging, the importance of personal responsibility, the disappearance & possible re-emergence of the Bildung, and more.