In this episode, Shane sits down with Thomas Kinsella, Co-founder and Chief Customer Officer from Tines to discuss the ins and outs of developing and scaling a security product. Tines is a no-code automation platform that helps companies with mission-critical security workflows. Prior to co-founding Tines, Thomas was Senior Director, Security Operations at DocuSign, Lead eCrime Investigator, Global Technical Investigations at eBay, and an IT Security and Forensics Specialist at Deloitte. In this conversation he shares stories and insights both as a seasoned security expert and a co-founder.