This week, Steven and Brian are joined by The Housing Minister - Paul McLennan MSP.

Paul is an SNP MSP representing East Lothian since 2021 and prior to this was a councillor for many years for Dunbar and East Linton.

We discuss with him whether this long period in local government was a help in preparing him for life as an MSP and a Minister and he provides us with an exhaustive list of issues that he has to cover within the housing brief.

An excellent chat and we'll no doubt get him on again to discuss the various announcements that he trails in the podcast.