In this episode, historian Marjorie Spruill tells us about Bella Abzug, a champion for equality. We learn about Bella's career in politics as the country was beginning to divide so extremely in the 1970s.

*Disclaimer, you do not need to watch the "Mrs. America" limited series to enjoy the history conversation in this podcast. However, the 7th episode of the series is a good companion piece for this podcast episode.

Marjorie is a historian and author of the book "Divided We Stand”.

Marjorie and I also talk about how real change is possible in Washington if people unite and demand it. We talk about how political naïveté can actually help make change happen. We talk about racism on the conservative side and how the pro-life and anti-ERA movements joined together.

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