FeaturingKevin Gilbertson, CIO for the State of Montana. We cover Kevin's unique perspectives on the benefits of private sector experience in the public sector, utilizing internship opportunities to create a culture of alumni who want to return and serve, Montana's Digital Challenge, and the low code no code strategy.Connect with Kevin: LinkedIn, TwitterQuotesFrom the private sector, always pushing, always trying to be results driven- that's not a new learning for the public sector at all. But I think trying to continually push toward that execution at a speed that is similar to private is something that has been a little new ~ Kevin Gilbertson I was a developer for a while, and then realized that the human side was so much more important in a lot of cases than the bits and bytes ~ Kevin Gilbertson on his journey from the private to public sector Here's an opportunity, I think, for the State to get into a developmental mindset to be able to bring in someone that's straight out of college. We've got all of the technology that you would see in private sector to give folks the opportunity to get in and really get hands-on ~ Kevin GilbertsonPodcast SponsorsThese companies make the podcast possible, so go check them out and thank them for their support!Nagarro Public Sector - Diamond SponsorAnd a huge thank you to Nagarro Public Sector. This live podcast would not be possible without the support and love of Nagarro. Nagarro Public Sector excels at helping senior technology leaders in digital disruption from Cloud, AI, Big Data, and digital product engineering to system integration work across platforms. To learn more about Nagarro, check out at nagarro.com.In today's episode you will learn:[00:50]  Kevin shares about his background in the private sector, and how having a non-exclusively public sector background can benefit persons in CIO roles[09:37] Kevin discusses how onboarding people into the Public Sector through internship and apprenticeship opportunities can be a win-win[11:19] It's not just about pay: Kevin relates how the ability to impact citizens' lives for the better brings value beyond monetary compensation[13:34] Send them out and welcome them back- Kevin talks about the importance of creating an "alumni" mindset that encourages former employees to want to come back when they are ready to serve again[18:58] How incorporating learning-based goals alongside results-driven goals can produce better overall outcomes[19:59] What is the Montana Digital Challenge and the next steps being taken towards going 100% digital?[26:32] The low code, no code strategy and how it's being implemented in Montana  ----------------------Want to dive deeper? Check out my episode on TechTables - https://www.techtables.com/And if you're a CIO or technology leader interested in coming on TechTables, shoot me an email at [email protected] you for supporting Levity Media LLC ❤️, a small business growing private and public sector technology communities through fun and engaging conversations with top technology leaders. Learn more about Joe Toste (me) at https://www.techtables.com/about/See what episodes I'm creating at https://www.techtables.com/ This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit techtables.substack.com/subscribe