The First Mile

Ep9: Leon McCarron on Slow Travel and Misunderstood Places.

Listen Later

Leon McCarron on Slow Travel and Misunderstood Places.

In this episode, Ash meets Leon McCarron: writer, broadcaster, and North Face explorer.

Leon has walked a 1000-mile loop of the Holy Land, crossed China from north to south, and travelled on foot in Kosovo, Armenia and on the Yemeni island of Socotra. He has also cycled 14,000 miles across three continents, walked through the Empty Quarter desert, and ridden across Patagonia on horseback. Leon’s work seeks out stories of humanity and nuance in parts of the world that are often demonised or misunderstood by Western media. 

In this episode, discover:

  • About Leon’s 1,000 mile walk through the Middle East (including why Leon and Pip found themselves walking along a smugglers route in Jordan!).
  • Why Leon’s travels turned from journeys focused on landscapes to those focused on people and what he’s learned as a result.
  • How to tell powerful stories - the power and use of journaling, and why less is more.
  • How Leon created his career path.
  • How Leon enjoys telling stories by travelling on foot.
  • Why reading works by local authors not only aids understanding but also excitement about visiting a country.
  • Leon’s experience witnessing the Arbaʽeen Pilgrimage that takes place in Iraq.
  • How and why Leon has helped establish new walking trails in central China and northern Iraq.
  • Why people’s careers are not always what they appear.
  • Why you might want to avoid googling popular travel destinations.

    • Links mentioned in this episode:

    • Leon website https://www.leonmccarron.com
  • Leon Instagram https://www.instagram.com/leonmccarron/
  • Leon Twitter https://twitter.com/leonmccarron?lang=en
  • Leon’s book: The Land Beyond https://www.leonmccarron.com/writing1.html
  • Rob Lillwall https://roblilwall.com
  • Alastair Humprehys https://alastairhumphreys.com
  • Arbaʽeen Pilgrimage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbaʽeen_Pilgrimage
  • The Long Form Podcast https://longform.org/podcast
  • Our Man in the Middle East https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08rmkcd
  • Ramblings with Claire Balding https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006xrr2/episodes/player
  • On Writing by Stephen King
  • Bird by Bird by Anne Lamott
  • The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming by David Wallace-Wells


    • JOIN US ON SOCIAL:
    We’d love to hear what you think of this week’s The First Mile and if you’ve got any suggestions of topics or people you’d like to hear interviewed. Drop us a line on Instagram @AshBhardwaj and @PipStewart or Twitter @AshBhardwaj and @PipStewart.

    *Please consider leaving a review if you enjoyed this episode. Thank you! 

    ...more
    View all episodesView all episodes
    Download on the App Store
    The First MileBy thefirstmile
    • 5
    • 5
    • 5
    • 5
    • 5

    5

    5 ratings