Pablo Eskobear is well known in Grand Rapids, Michigan, having recently won INSTRUMENTAL ALBUM OF THE YEAR at the Jammies. He produced tracks for a bunch of artists locally and nationally, including past guest Sonny Ski (listen to "The Grandest").

 Among other things, we talk about:

And at the end there's a rough cut of some music we made (based on an idea Kirk Ross and I had, which may possibly turn into something...).

Check out Pablo on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube, and his website to find out when he has new stuff coming out. Listen to his award-winning music  on SPOTIFY as well.

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