The Jer talks to Emma Woods about a recent odd experience involving abduction-related and hallucinatory phenomena. Together they discuss whether one's state of consciousness during an abduction differs if it's physical or nonphysical and if so, do phenomena surrounding an experience differ? All of this is couched in Oliver Sacks' book, Hallucinations. Then, the Jer gets into his meditative experience from just last night and discusses some new twists on the trickster and the abduction scenario.