Writing in the Weekend Australian January 4-5 2025,Greg Craven, former Vice-Chancellor of The Catholic University in Sydney, observed that Christmas has not merely "become commercial ... but that it has become materialist". Later on he adds, " ... people long for a spiritual reality that transcends mere functional reality". Considering this desire to reawaken the meaning of the Christmas story, this week's podcast considers afresh the various facets of the original records found in Matthew and Luke.