A conversation with Rick Hanson.

This episode's guest is Rick Hanson, a psychologist, a Senior Fellow of the Greater Good Science Center at UC Berkeley, and a New York Times best-selling author. In their conversation, David and Rick talk about what resilience means and its connection to mindfulness; the distinction between “working with” and “being with” when it comes to meditation; and the practices Rick depends on in his life to cope well with stress and adversity.