In today's episode of the Sippi Podcast, Caleb and Chris talk about being new, unusual or experimental (avant-garde) in your business without scaring your existing customers off. The guys also chat about the 2023 biographical comedy-drama film "BlackBerry", and Caleb shares first hand experience about entrepreneurship never being as good as it seems or as bad as it seems.  

Special thanks to R.A.M Arts & Media for editing this episode of the Sippi Podcast!