Dr Jacob Phillips of St Mary's University, Twickenham, about how technology is helping during the crisis and why virtual classrooms can't permanently replace real university communities. Fr David Palmer of the Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham tells of a harrowing visit to a COVID-19 ward in Nottingham. Christopher Lamb of The Tablet tells us about his book and trades views of the Vatican with host Chris Altieri. Fr Nicolas Steeves SJ of the Pontifical Gregorian University helps us think through some of the spiritual and intellectual challenges of these unusual times.