This week Nyk and I discuss the difference between inclusion and exclusion when presenting opinions; in particular we look at the current war between Athiests and Creationists, and how the New Athiest movement is quite aggressive, and possibly counterproductive. We also look at the progression of Creationist to Anti-Theist to Athiest that seems to take place as part of a de-conversion and how it is a necessary progression to go through. We also have a great laugh at some Joyce Meyer quotes involving questioning andobedience