A conversation with designer, artist, and creator of VisualizeValue, Jack Butcher. We talk about how a growing family impacts creative habits, what led to Jack’s love of design as a teenager, corporate decks as ironic inspiration, launching a project like Checks just as his daughter was born, scaling and evolving that project, and how the internet has shaped his writing and relationships.

Episode artwork by Chuck Anderson/NoPattern Studio. Episode music & production by Yuri Rybak & Josh Chin.

Created in partnership with ZORA.