We’re having too much fun making the podcast which leads us to question, is this “too much fun” to be called work?

In this episode we dive into the transformative power of integrating playfulness into our work lives. Challenging the entrenched 'grind culture' that glorifies overwork and undervalues leisure, we unravel how adopting a playful approach can lead to more meaningful and sustainable success. We dissect the illusions created by visibility and hard work, advocate for the impact of soft power in leadership, and celebrate the unsung heroes who achieve without the need for fame.