This week, Carl welcomes a very special guest – Jonathan Malm. Jonathan is the author of several books on church culture including Created for More and Unwelcome. He is also the creator of some powerhouse church media sites like churchstagedesignideas.com, sundaymag.tv, and seriesideas.com. In this episode, they discuss Jonathan’s latest eBook “Set the Stage: A Manifesto for Church Stage Design”. For complete Show Notes, sharable content for your team and more visit http://www.twelvethirtymedia.com/podcast