We heard that you folks love these episodes where we give some background to how we got here, so here's another one.  In this episode, JP and Steve flip the script from their sit down in Episode 011.  This time around, JP steps into the hot seat for an in-depth conversation with Steve about his past, present, and future.  JP looks back on his life and gets deep about growing up in a religious home, what it means to be the "new kid," and about being honest and realistic with yourself when you make a mistake in order to move forward.  He also gets vulnerable about his continued struggle with letting go of other people's judgement, how he manages to be be mindful while dealing with overthinking, and how the podcast has changed his entire outlook on creativity.

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