Throughout the last 20 years Iraq and Afghanistan have had a rough time. War torn, broken and painted into our memories as places not to go. This week's guest, Billy Ward, decided that's exactly where he should go.

Billy is a character full of larger than life stories that are not larger than his life. With his intrepid friend and filmmaker Claudio Von Planta of Long Way Up fame, the pair documented their trips into the war zone of Northern Iraq and Afghanistan. The podcast touches on that experience, on how a project like that comes together and why Billy chooses to go to extremes with his holiday choices.

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