Phil Fedor, PLS has been surveying for nearly 30 years in NY, IN & AZ and is currently a PM at Bowman Consulting. He shares his passion for developing future surveyors, the Phoenix Comancheros Pony Express (visit their FB page and www.horseshelp.org) and the band KISS. Check out Phil as Ace Frehley https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9IVE1fnjoBk&feature=youtu.be Mike Kenney the owner of Social Hall joins the boys to share what’s new for 2020. Kent and Phil get in the weeds on some of the serious issues facing the land surveying profession. Big Shoots reviews the Outlaw Inlaws show and Producer Jake has some big news! Music for this episode by the Outlaw Inlaws. Check them out at https://www.outlawinlaws.com/