The SHIFT Podcast

Episode 023 - Ricardo Kaka - World Cup winner, 2007 Ballon d'Or (Global Player of the Year), Husband, and Father


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Ricardo Kaka, famed Brazilian professional footballer (soccer) has accomplished what most athletes have only dreamed about: Won the World Cup in 2002 with Brazil, won the UEFA Champions League with AC Milan, 2007 Ballon d'Or winner, listed in Time magazine's top 100 most influential people in 2008 and 2009, and much more.  

In this episode we dive into his career, some of the more difficult moments of loss and success. Also, what his transition to life after playing professional has been like, and how his perspective and mindset has shifted from looking forward to the 50,000 fans on Sunday to playing and enjoying the present moments with his kids. Kaka shares about how his faith in God has kept him grounded and given him strength as he navigated some of those difficult moments in his playing career and provided a strong foundation for who he is, focusing on the present, and preparing for the future. 

The interview was originally recorded with Kaka, Andy Searles (chaplain and character coach for Orlando City in the MLS), and your host Jonathan Van Horn for the Pro Soccer Chaplains Network Kickoff Conference in January of 2021 and being reposted on the SHIFT podcast with permission of Kaka, Andy Searles, and the Pro Soccer Chaplains Network. 

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