In today's candid conversation we talk with Carl and Jess Gumness.   Carl is Erin's brother, and He, Jess, and their two sons live in our same tiny town.  Jess offers a unique perspective from having worked with individuals with differing abilities as she pursues her career in the field, and opens up about how she utilized an Individualized Education Program as she completes her schooling.  Enjoy, and thanks for being part of the Upside Down Family!