Chris Hershman has spent time as the touring photographer with bands such as Switchfoot and shot the first music video for the Alabama Shakes. He now labels himself a Visual Artist and Creative Producer focusing on lifting up bands and brands with their visual image. McKenzie Hansen collaborates with Hershman as well as focusing on her own business of shooting photos of wedding, events and lifestyle branding for companies as well as being a filmmaker. They discuss how to be successful as a creative by pushing past fear as well as following your passion.  They also chat about how to keep moving forward and how not to be afraid to expand your repertoire. There is also mention of a false UFO sighting and balancing being a mother and working photographer.