Welcome to season two of Making Conversation with me, Grant Brydon. I’ve been sitting down with some of my favourite artists and thinkers to discuss creativity and life, for this fortnightly podcast.

For this episode I spoke to ELIZA, the North London musician behind A Sky Without Stars, an immersive slow-burning soul album that she wrote during the pandemic and shared with us earlier this year.

ELIZA recently joined me at Levi’s Haus of Strauss in London to talk about music as a vessel for human connection, the paradox of creativity and commerce, and how she’s finding ways to reconnect with nature.

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@elizalovechild

@GrantBrydon

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Artwork by @chanylbtc

Music by @jonphonics

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Buy my book ‘Life Lessons from Hip-Hop’ here: geni.us/LifeLessonsFromHipHop