In this episode of Communicating Cyber, we get into what it really takes to make security land with impact and clarity – even when that means sending a phishing email to the executive committee!

Our guest, Nisha Patel, CISO at Ocorian, has spent 20+ years on the front lines of cyber, and she’s here to share how she cuts through noise, wins boardroom buy-in, and builds security cultures that stick. From real-world incidents to bold new approaches, Nisha brings sharp, human insight into leading in high-stakes environments. If you've ever wrestled with getting your message heard, or making people actually care, this one’s for you.