Angel and Tomas are joined by Quinton Wong and Chris Li for a discussion on sustainability and what it means for designers. Topics include, greenwashing, the validity of physical objects, and how we can design for a better future. Following this discussion is an interview with Harvard-educated U of A industrial design instructor Ghassan Zabaneh. Ghassan discusses his journey into design and sustainability, life-cycle analysis class, and the need for cultural shifts in how we impact the world we live in.