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In this episode, we first travel 2,400 years back to ancient Athens, where the playwright Aristophanes satirizes the notion of communal property leading to reliance on slaves. But the central theme of the episode is the town of New Harmony, in Indiana, United States. Founded in 1825 by Robert Owen, a Welsh reformer and philanthropist, his idea was to create a society without poverty or individualism through the collective sharing of property and production. Despite initial optimism, New Harmony collapsed by 1828 due to inefficiency, scarcity, and mismanagement, mirroring later 20th-century communist failures. Owen’s vision of equal remuneration regardless of contribution led to low productivity, surveillance, and punishment of dissent, as noted by his son Robert Dale and others. Historical parallels in other places of the United States in the 19th century, including Étienne Cabet’s Icarian communities and Brook Farm, further illustrate the recurring failure of such collectivist experiments. Aristotle’s ancient critique in “Politics” underscores this, arguing that shared property receives minimal care —a lesson reiterated by New Harmony’s demise, which highlights the unintended consequences of utopian collectivism.
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In this episode, we first travel 2,400 years back to ancient Athens, where the playwright Aristophanes satirizes the notion of communal property leading to reliance on slaves. But the central theme of the episode is the town of New Harmony, in Indiana, United States. Founded in 1825 by Robert Owen, a Welsh reformer and philanthropist, his idea was to create a society without poverty or individualism through the collective sharing of property and production. Despite initial optimism, New Harmony collapsed by 1828 due to inefficiency, scarcity, and mismanagement, mirroring later 20th-century communist failures. Owen’s vision of equal remuneration regardless of contribution led to low productivity, surveillance, and punishment of dissent, as noted by his son Robert Dale and others. Historical parallels in other places of the United States in the 19th century, including Étienne Cabet’s Icarian communities and Brook Farm, further illustrate the recurring failure of such collectivist experiments. Aristotle’s ancient critique in “Politics” underscores this, arguing that shared property receives minimal care —a lesson reiterated by New Harmony’s demise, which highlights the unintended consequences of utopian collectivism.
For a full list of sources and other relevant links, please see the Full Transcript of this episode.
Support the show
Thank you for listening. For additional information and social media links, you can visit https://www.thecobraeffectpodcast.com
You can support the show on Buy Me a Coffee or become a monthly member. Links on the website. You help me to cover my costs, and your contribution keeps this project going.
Feel free to reach out via social media or email. The email address is [email protected]
I would appreciate hearing your questions, comments, or suggestions for future topics. See you in two weeks for another episode of The Cobra Effect Podcast.

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