The Dreyer Drive Podcast

Episode 032 - [From the Vault] The Pickering Town Centre


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### MAIN SEGMENTS

### RYAN'S JAPANESE IMMIGRATION SAGA

[00:02:31 - 00:06:16] - The Pension System Panic

- Ryan's three-year visa renewal process in Japan

- Discovering he never enrolled in Japan's national pension system

- Panic about potential deportation: "They're going to put me on one of those cargo airplanes"

- Government-mandated apology letters and bureaucratic absurdity

[00:06:16 - 00:08:58] - American Citizenship Stories

- Ryan's citizenship test experience with the same Russian immigration officer

- The "Homer Simpson" signing incident

- Swearing-in ceremony with 50 other new citizens

### THE PLEDGE TO DEFEND AMERICA

[00:08:58 - 00:11:56] - Citizenship Ceremony Hesitation

- Required pledge to "raise arms against America's enemies"

- Ryan and fellow Canadian's reluctance: "I am not going to war for the United States"

- Commentary on "aggressively neutral" Canadians

- Discussion of confrontation styles and family dynamics

### SCHOOL INTERVIEW DISASTER

[00:18:14 - 00:23:30] - Noah's International School Interview

- Preparation vs. reality when plans change unexpectedly

- Three-year-old meltdown during admissions process

- The Porter family gene for plan-disruption anxiety

- Instagram parenting advice critique: "Can she just be shy today?"

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### HOME DECOR DISASTERS

### THE INFAMOUS PINK LIVING ROOM

[00:24:02 - 00:29:31] - Sponge Painting Gone Wrong

- Mom's decorating authority vs. Dad's execution willingness

- Pepto-Bismol pink base with white, pink, and magenta sponge painting

- "16 months of rage in that house - nobody was ever calm"

- Family photos from the era: "We all just look horrible"

- The psychological impact of aggressive pink walls

### JACQUELINE'S COW KINGDOM

[00:31:15 - 00:34:02] - Total Theme Commitment

- Converting the upstairs office into Jacqueline's cow-themed bedroom

- Purple and green sponge painting with cow borders

- Actual milk can painted with cow print labeled "Jacqueline's Dairy"

- Teacher requesting leftover cow wallpaper for her dining room

- Eight years of cow-themed living (ages 10-18)

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### MALL CULTURE DEEP DIVE

### PICKERING TOWN CENTER MEMORIES

[00:35:05 - 00:39:38] - The Perfect Mall Day

- Childhood labor: handing out health food store coupons dressed as Snow White and a ninja

- Friday afternoon mall drops with indefinite pickup times

- Essential mall stops: HMV for new cassettes, Champ Sports for Jordans

- The art of teenage mall stalking and social awkwardness

[00:39:38 - 00:44:50] - Favorite Mall Stores & Experiences

- The weapon kiosk by the exit: Zippos, ninja stars, and meditation balls

- "Here they aren't" game while waiting for forgotten pickup

- Gallantries restaurant and Dad's liver and onions obsession

- Blue Notes vs. Pantorama: the economic divide at the jean wall

### STORE BREAKDOWN

[00:44:50 - 00:46:00] - Jacqueline's Shopping List

- Blue Notes: "tip top of fashion" with Canadian-themed shirts

- Spencer's: forbidden but visited anyway

- PJ's Pets: "really lowbrow sad zoo" with puppies and birds

- Beanie Baby specialty store (very time-specific)

- Roots: luxury level unattainable

- Laura Secord: fluorescent ice cream finale

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### LEGENDARY MALL STORIES

### THE VOICE CRACK BASKETBALL DISASTER

[00:46:00 - 00:53:36] - Lakeside vs. Southwood Rivalry

- Meeting "rich kids" from Lakeside at the mall

- Phone numbers contingent on winning basketball game

- The outlet play setup and crucial moment

- Epic voice crack: "OOOOUTLET!" heard round the gym

- Lost game, lost phone numbers, lasting high school embarrassment

### THE VERONA MALL DYNAMITE OPERATION

[00:54:27 - 00:57:17] - Abandoned Mall Adventures

- Half-built mall with disappeared developer

- Discovery of explosive test tubes with glue and white powder

- Teenage dynamite distribution network across Ajax

- Police investigation and end of underground explosives business

- Decade-long abandoned mall teenage playground

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### FASHION ARCHAEOLOGY

### JOURNAL ENTRIES FROM 2000

[00:59:08 - 01:01:45] - Peak Y2K Fashion Documentation

- "Killer pair of yellow vinyl flares and bright red shirt"

- Shopping with Bobby, Sean, Jeff, and Steve (very 2000 names)

- Three Doors Down CD disappointment vs. Collective Soul preference

- Elephant shirt and quarter-length sheer shirt purchases

- The "Goddess, Princess, Angel, All of the Above" checked shirt

[01:01:45 - 01:04:20] - Brother Rating System

- Weekly performance reviews for all brothers in journal

- Daniel's zero rating for BB gun threats and cat exile attempts

- Systematic documentation of family dysfunction

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### MALL CULTURE ANALYSIS

### THE GREAT EQUALIZER THEORY

[00:45:46 - 00:46:00] - Economic Democracy of Malls

- Malls as spaces where economic differences didn't matter

- Ability to participate without spending money

- Social hierarchy navigation training ground

### HISTORICAL CONTEXT

[01:05:36 - 01:06:42] - Austrian Architect's Vision vs. Reality

- Designer's goal to bring "culture" to Americans

- Fancy names: Galleria, Forum references to Greek/Roman culture

- American response: "Where's the chicken restaurant?"

- Pillars and fountains vs. Hakeem Optical and food courts

### MALL FACTS & UPDATES

[01:07:04 - 01:07:45] - Pickering Town Center Evolution

- Originally called Sheridan Mall

- 2016 flood closing lower level stores and Santa's Castle

- 2024 rename to "The Shops at Pickering City Center"

- Famous Players theater closure and gift certificate memories

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### EPISODE WRAP-UP

### MODERN MALL VISIT REALITY CHECK

[01:07:45 - 01:08:18] - 2024 Mall Experience

- Taking kids to childhood mall: 30% of stores closed

- Andrew's ninja star request: tradition continues

- Disappointment vs. nostalgia expectations

### TEXT MESSAGE OF THE WEEK

[01:10:03 - 01:11:45] - Daniel's Birthday "Gift"

- Meme sent on Jonathan's birthday: "Tomorrow wasn't promised, call your siblings and tell them they're ugly and adopted"

- 44-year-old Daniel swinging into frame giving middle finger

- Forgetting it was actually Jonathan's birthday

- Classic oldest brother energy

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### RECURRING THEMES

- Porter Family Dysfunction: Extreme commitment to questionable choices

- 90s Parental Supervision: "Where were our parents?"

- Mall as Third Parent: Better supervision than actual family

- Economic Class Awareness: Blue Notes vs. Pantorama divide

- Fashion Disasters: Yellow vinyl flares and cow print commitment

- Sibling Dynamics: Competitive rating systems and weapon threats

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### QUOTABLE MOMENTS

- "I am not going to war for the United States of America"

- "16 months of rage in that house"

- "We bought an actual milk can and painted it with cow print"

- "I bought a killer pair of yellow vinyl flares"

- "The Pickering Town Center was a better parent than our actual parents"

- "We were selling this stuff to others" (regarding dynamite)

- "Here you can eat for as little as you can eat at home" (Gallantries slogan)

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### MENTIONED LOCATIONS

- Pickering Town Center (Pickering, Ontario)

- Verona Mall (abandoned, Ajax, Ontario)

- West Edmonton Mall (Alberta)

- Exeter High School (Ajax)

- Southwood Elementary vs. Lakeside Elementary (Ajax)

- 26 Dreyer Drive (family home)

### CULTURAL REFERENCES

- Collective Soul, Three Doors Down (music)

- Blue Notes, Pantorama, Jean Machine (clothing stores)

- HMV, Spencer's, Roots (retail chains)

- PJ's Pets, Laura Secord (Canadian chains)

- Beanie Babies (1990s toy craze)

- Famous Players (Canadian theater chain)



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