Things That Keep Me Up at Night

Episode #041 - Joseph Goode


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This week, we interview friend of Olivia and Reseach & Communication Officer Joseph Goode from the Whitaker Peace & Development Initiative. We clarify just what a war crime really is, and find that it's not so simple as it may seem. We also talk systemic and societal trauma, what it costs to ignore it, and how we heal it. And don't worry - we end on a light note.

Featuring: green M&Ms, the violin, and three week-old cupcakes.

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Things That Keep Me Up at NightBy Brooke Morris, Olivia Leland

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