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Episode 045: "The Talent War" with Ex-Navy Seal, Mike Sarraille, Co-Author, "The Talent War" (The LIFE WORKS Podcast, Hosted by Mark Botros)
Mike Sarraille is an Ex-Navy Seal. George Randle is a Ex- US Army Officer. Together they are on a mission to take on one of today’s most critical issues in the workplace – the assessment, selection, development – and deployment of Talent. Drawing on decades of experience in the special forces and working with elite organizations, they outline the problem in their new book “The Talent War”. Mike and George say that many organizations are already losing this war, and as a result they are not only losing their best people, but losing competitive advantage, market share, and ultimately are in danger of going out of business. But they also say there is a solution for those who are willing to listen.
In this Interview:
02:03 An Ex-Navy Seal’s opinion on the Capitol Riots04:45 What does it take to become a Navy seal?”08:03 “Their hiring process is the most robust behavioral interview in the world, that no company can replicate “08:46 “The training is designed to make sure everyone fails”08:53 “There’s so many things the business world misses out on that they could learn from the military”10:00 “The enemy get to vote much like your competition…”11:16 Why Mike and George wrote the Talent War?12:40 “oh no HR is a revenue generator”13:24 The greatest force in the world14:28 “we’re pretty damn good”15:03 “Enterprise is the basis of our American democracy”15:39 “America that’s pretty damn awesome”15:46 what’s a special about Special Operations Forces?16:19 “We’ve gotten very good at selecting people based on their potential, not industry experience”18:21 The core attribute needed by every position18:55 Talent Profiles19:19 The surprising difference between industry and Special Operations hiring21:02 Why does industry default to industry experience to select high performers?22:23 This is the kind of person you want to hire22:50 The Talent Mindset23:53 Quality is more important than quantity24:11 Yes, but will it scale at an enterprise level? The surprising answer25:24 The thing every business leader wants, but is also wildly problematic27:41 Hiring advice for every company and organization28:40 Are you a Talent Magnet? Here’s the litmus test30:05 When you make your people a priority this is what happens30:19 How to change culture to adopt a Talent Mindset30:30 A case study – Netflix vs. Enron (i.e., Netflix culture deck)31:51 Your Talent is judging your culture too32:20 Counterintuitive advice if you take a bad job with a bad culture33:02 if you have a toxic culture that lacks ethics…you reap what you sew33:43 Example of failed companies…even Amazon isn’t safe34:45 Succession planning (industry vs. the military approaches)37:20 “The military is the greatest leadership training program there is”37:29 “MBA programs do not produce leaders, they produce business practitioners”38:25 Hire for character and train for skill41:00 IQ is not necessarily a predictor of high performance45:50 Murder Boards and useful hiring pro-tips48:17 A surprising, underused, and valuable approaches to behavioral interviewing49:11 The problems with traditional hiring51:02 What’s the next action after reading “The Talent War”52:01 The war that can’t be won52:34 Mike’s secret to his success53:58 Mike’s greatest lesson54:22 “run towards the sounds of gun fire”55:39 Mike’s one piece of advice to the world56:45 Where to connect with Mike
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Mike Sarraille is an Ex-Navy Seal. George Randle is a Ex- US Army Officer. Together they are on a mission to take on one of today’s most critical issues in the workplace – the assessment, selection, development – and deployment of Talent. Drawing on decades of experience in the special forces and working with elite organizations, they outline the problem in their new book “The Talent War”. Mike and George say that many organizations are already losing this war, and as a result they are not only losing their best people, but losing competitive advantage, market share, and ultimately are in danger of going out of business. But they also say there is a solution for those who are willing to listen.
In this Interview:
02:03 An Ex-Navy Seal’s opinion on the Capitol Riots04:45 What does it take to become a Navy seal?”08:03 “Their hiring process is the most robust behavioral interview in the world, that no company can replicate “08:46 “The training is designed to make sure everyone fails”08:53 “There’s so many things the business world misses out on that they could learn from the military”10:00 “The enemy get to vote much like your competition…”11:16 Why Mike and George wrote the Talent War?12:40 “oh no HR is a revenue generator”13:24 The greatest force in the world14:28 “we’re pretty damn good”15:03 “Enterprise is the basis of our American democracy”15:39 “America that’s pretty damn awesome”15:46 what’s a special about Special Operations Forces?16:19 “We’ve gotten very good at selecting people based on their potential, not industry experience”18:21 The core attribute needed by every position18:55 Talent Profiles19:19 The surprising difference between industry and Special Operations hiring21:02 Why does industry default to industry experience to select high performers?22:23 This is the kind of person you want to hire22:50 The Talent Mindset23:53 Quality is more important than quantity24:11 Yes, but will it scale at an enterprise level? The surprising answer25:24 The thing every business leader wants, but is also wildly problematic27:41 Hiring advice for every company and organization28:40 Are you a Talent Magnet? Here’s the litmus test30:05 When you make your people a priority this is what happens30:19 How to change culture to adopt a Talent Mindset30:30 A case study – Netflix vs. Enron (i.e., Netflix culture deck)31:51 Your Talent is judging your culture too32:20 Counterintuitive advice if you take a bad job with a bad culture33:02 if you have a toxic culture that lacks ethics…you reap what you sew33:43 Example of failed companies…even Amazon isn’t safe34:45 Succession planning (industry vs. the military approaches)37:20 “The military is the greatest leadership training program there is”37:29 “MBA programs do not produce leaders, they produce business practitioners”38:25 Hire for character and train for skill41:00 IQ is not necessarily a predictor of high performance45:50 Murder Boards and useful hiring pro-tips48:17 A surprising, underused, and valuable approaches to behavioral interviewing49:11 The problems with traditional hiring51:02 What’s the next action after reading “The Talent War”52:01 The war that can’t be won52:34 Mike’s secret to his success53:58 Mike’s greatest lesson54:22 “run towards the sounds of gun fire”55:39 Mike’s one piece of advice to the world56:45 Where to connect with Mike