In this episode of Raw Green, Francesco De Lieto and Emma Mee speak with Nick Wise, founder and CEO of OceanMind (https://oceanmind.global/) and co-founder of Climate TRACE (https://climatetrace.org/), about what really happens at sea when nobody is watching.

Nick explains how satellites, artificial intelligence, and data-driven intelligence are being used to expose illegal fishing, environmental crime, forced labour, and regulatory blind spots across the world’s oceans. The conversation explores why enforcement remains so difficult, the limits of certification and traceability, and the growing risks linked to deep-sea mining.

A rare, behind-the-scenes look at the hidden systems shaping life at sea — and what it will really take to make ocean protection work.

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