In episode 048, Martin and Jahed sit down with Dr. Margot Clarvis, PhD, an environmental scientist working in the field of nature-based solutions (NbS), interfacing with the growing natural asset and carbon markets. In the course of the episode, Margot speaks to the trends that are at work turning nature into an ownable asset class with revenue potential, who the various stakeholders in the NbS space are, and how they’re working to build scientific consensus on natural assets and their revenue streams. We also touch on recent controversies in the voluntary carbon market, opportunities for blockchains to potentially solve trust issues in the market, and the evolution of these market-based solutions toward addressing development goals.