Our guest on this episode is Shelby Zoey Coley, a Black queer filmmaker based in New York City working across nonfiction and documentary forms. Shelby uses rhythm, portraiture, and the spoken word to explore intersections between queerness, race and creative practices. Her work has been featured in renowned publications such as Afropunk, Slay TV and Curve Magazine.

On this episode, Shelby and I talk about how people are valued on the basis of money in capitalistic systems, Bill Gates and his trampoline room, and also why she chose art as her mode of communication with the world. We hope you enjoy this episode!