This week Jenni Catron joins the podcast. Her new book “The 4 Dimensions of Extraordinary Leadership” is available now. We talked about leading in the midst of chaos – which we as creatives know a little about serving on Sundays. We also talked about leading with your heart, soul, mind and strength and how to take your leadership from ordinary to extraordinary. If you are a leader of volunteers at your church, listen up, Jenni has some really practical helps for you as you lead your teams. twelvethirtymedia.com/069