Beverly is joined by Cecil Charles, a songwriter, artist, actor, essayist, and pun-maker. As of this episode, he’s also now known as a jack-of-all trades, master of puns. Together, they talk about beauty in the world, playing and composing music, puns, dad jokes, music in other cultures, and probably make fun of Carter at some point, as he deserves.

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