On this edition of Clean and Sober Radio, host Gary Hendler and cohost Mark Sigmund welcome Steve Forzato. With over three decades of experience in law enforcement at many levels, Steve is an expert on the opioid epidemic. He has served as a consultant to the Pennsylvania Attorney General's investigation of pharmaceutical manufacturers and oversaw investigations involving unlawful prescribing of drugs. Steve has taken his decades of experience and is now the Director of the new Center for Addiction and Recovery Education at Saint Joseph's University in Philadelphia where he is working with law enforcement to be sensitive to the complexity of addiction and to realize that we cannot incarcerate our way out of the drug crisis in this country.