Today's guest is Kiel Tillman. He is the owner, designer, illustrator, and mural artist at Tillman Creative Co. on the Gold Coast in AUS. During this episode, we talk about how surf culture, skate culture, and playing with laser cutters all contributed to Kiel's creative path. Kiel tells us about a recent speaking gig he had at the Typism conference and what that was like. We talk about how he was able to get the attention of the WuTang Clan on a tour they were doing in AUS and how he ended up designing stuff for them. He also tells us a couple of stories where things didn't go smooth. One involves a "tax" punch in the gut after his best year ( I see you freelancers ), and the other involves a live painting project he was working on for a Jägermeister event....live...