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            <div><a target="_blank" href="http://denisejacobs.com/">Denise Jacobs</a></div>
            <div><a target="_blank" href="http://twitter.com/denisejacobs">@denisejacobs</a></div>
        
        
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        <span>Full show notes are at <a href="https://developeronfire.com/podcast/episode-089-denise-jacobs-becoming-self-referential">https://developeronfire.com/podcast/episode-089-denise-jacobs-becoming-self-referential</a></span>
    
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Guest: Denise Jacobs @denisejacobs Full show notes are at https://developeronfire.com/podcast/episode-089-denise-jacobs-becoming-self-referential

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            <a href="http://denisejacobs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Denise Jacobs</a>
            <a href="http://twitter.com/denisejacobs" rel="noopener noreferrer">@denisejacobs</a>
        
        
    
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        Full show notes are at <a href="https://developeronfire.com/podcast/episode-089-denise-jacobs-becoming-self-referential" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://developeronfire.com/podcast/episode-089-denise-jacobs-becoming-self-referential</a>
    
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Episode 089 | Denise Jacobs - Becoming Self-Referential

Developer On Fire with Dave Rael is an interview podcast with inspiring and successful software professionals telling personal stories about their experiences with delivering value. It is a chance for you to get to know your favorite geeks and learn more about who they are, how they deliver, and what makes them tick.  Learn from and get to know special geeks like Matt Wynne, Rob Eisenberg, Udi Dahan, Ted Neward, John Sonmez, Phil Haack, and David Heinemeier Hansson.

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Developer On Fire with Dave Rael is an interview podcast with inspiring and successful software professionals telling personal stories about their experiences with delivering value. It is a chance for you to get to know your favorite geeks and learn more about who they are, how they deliver, and what makes them tick. Learn from and get to know special geeks like Matt Wynne, Rob Eisenberg, Udi Dahan, Ted Neward, John Sonmez, Phil Haack, and David Heinemeier Hansson.

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