Rhythm and Chai is a space for conversations that explore what lives beneath the work.

As Pagrav approaches 20 years in the UK, this opening episode begins with the care that is an often unseen foundation before structures, funding, or recognition.

Urja Desai Thakore is joined by Executive Producer Lia Prentaki, who has been part of Pagrav’s journey since its early years. Together, they reflect on what it means to hold work over time, sustain vision through uncertainty, and practise care as something active and deeply relational.