In their first episode, Tony Shaffer, a conservative Christian father and his gay son, Matthew Shaffer—an artist and educator—begin an honest dialogue about faith, belief, and the hypocrisy they’ve witnessed in media, politics, and leadership. Grounded in lived experience and creative practice, the conversation reflects on why hard conversations are essential to sustaining community—and why continuing the conversation matters more than walking away.

Theme Music Composed by Bruce Martin.