In this episode, Tom and Patrick chat with Jen Easterly, former Director of CISA, for the U.S. government. Topics covered range from public-private collaboration efforts to better protect our national security, to her perspectives on defending against threat actors targeting U.S. interests as well as the impact AI is having on cyber today, with a sneak peak into a few of her upcoming key initiatives. And we go to learn how Jen Easterly spent her summer!