Dash and Swi interview Dr. George Williams, who is an Assistant Director at the Department of Children and Families. They cover being present in the lives of our kids, trauma, and the work that Dr. Williams has done to work with non-custodial fathers.

The guys also share recent moments where they realized they are imperfect dads, as well as their current #DadStractions.

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