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 My first guest is Jesse Deubel, Director of The New Mexico Wildlife Federation. In our discussion we cover a wide range of topics, from culinary tours of Eastern Europe to Jesse's upbringing, career, and his journey to becoming the Director of the New Mexico Wildlife Federation. We also explored what the word Zen means to both of us. I hope you enjoy it! 

New Mexico Wildlife Federation
https://nmwildlife.org/
Wild Harvest Initiative
https://thewildharvestinitiative.com/
https://youtu.be/Hzswy8PKsqQ
Ahi Va Podcast
https://nmwildlife.org/podcast/