<h4 class="m_9021494007481320273null">For nearly 30 minutes, Don chatted with Jody about how the 30 for 30 Podcasts idea was born, the critically acclaimed first 30 for 30 Podcasts episode, <a href="https://30for30podcasts.com/episodes/the-trials-of-dan-and-dave/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?hl=en&q=https://30for30podcasts.com/episodes/the-trials-of-dan-and-dave/&source=gmail&ust=1535650126080000&usg=AFQjCNFOGCAMBoFfm5FLssiGLshwijCHTw">The Trials of Dan and Dave</a> and whether this is the golden age of pods or we’re sitting atop a podcast bubble that’s about to burst.</h4>

For nearly 30 minutes, Don chatted with Jody about how the 30 for 30 Podcasts idea was born, the critically acclaimed first 30 for 30 Podcasts episode, The Trials of Dan and Dave and whether this is the golden age of pods or we’re sitting atop a podcast bubble that’s about to burst.

For nearly 30 minutes, Don chatted with Jody about how the 30 for 30 Podcasts idea was born, the critically acclaimed first 30 for 30 Podcasts episode,&nbsp;<a href="https://30for30podcasts.com/episodes/the-trials-of-dan-and-dave/" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Trials of Dan and Dave</a>&nbsp;and whether this is the golden age of pods or we’re sitting atop a podcast bubble that’s about to burst.

Episode 1: Jody Avirgan

Pulitzer-winning reporter Don Van Natta Jr. and journalist Jacob Feldman chat with writers and editors from across the industry as an audio extension of The Sunday Long Read e-mail newsletter.

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