Serge is the chair of the board of directors of FIRST (Forum for Incident Response and Security Teams), the premier organisation of recognised global leaders in incident response. In this role he actively participates in discussion relating to cyber security at various policy bodies, in particular related to norm building. Episode recorded in December 2020. Disclaimer: The views expressed by the hosts and guests are their own and their participation on the podcast does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent.