I've listened to this episode countless times as I've edited it and it is such a gift. I'm really grateful to Tim for doing it with me.

A few notes and links:

• Frank Herbert, by Tim O'Reilly
• Many of the works Tim mentions in this post are mentioned in this blog post: Books That Have Shaped How I Think
• At about 12:10, Tim mentions a passage about how Lao Tzu lists the attributes of a wise man, one of which is "roiled as a torrent." He explains this beautiful image in more detail in this blog post titled Knowing When to Let Go.
• The Man Watching by Rainer Maria Rilke
• Jacob Wrestling with the Angel by Eugène Delacroix.

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Intro music by Secret School.

Outro music is "3/10th of the Population" by WE™.

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