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In the first episode of this podcast, I catch up with Phill about the role of UI and UX in digital learning design. How visual design should play a supporting role and reveal my distaste for the term ‘gamification, without using a single word. If you’d like to get in touch you’ll find our details below. And, if you’d like to come on the show for a chat, get in touch using the link below. Phill Lord-David: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phill-lord-david-10a100a4/Tom McDowall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-mcdowall/Come on the show: [email protected] This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/the-ideas-podcast/message

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