Some people are surprised by what's happening in America. We are not.

It All Happened Before is a conversation between two people who grew up watching democracy erode in Turkey — and who now see the patterns repeating in the country they also call home.

In our first episode, we talk about why we started this project, what firsthand experience with authoritarianism actually teaches you, and how we hold onto ourselves while living across two countries in two different stages of a similar story.