In the intro, Tim talks hosting visitors, The Empty Bottle, and music. Ben Clark (singer/songwriter, composer for musicals The Circus In Winter and Skin And Bones) is today's guest! The late-night conversation starts right off with how Ben and Ryan M. Brewer (Episode 4) almost killed a guy hours before. After that, Tim and Ben discuss sports, Ben's music, field recording, musical theatre, Chicago, music as an emotional and mental outlet, depression, food, temping, cockroaches, dreams, ghosts, the Tao Te Ching by Lao-Tzu and more! Tim also plays some of Ben's tracks throughout the episode. In the outro, Tim talks Domino's Pizza and clears the air regarding a mistake he made in a previous episode that affected his girlfriend. Enjoy!

**Links**

--Ben Clark / The Long Shadows--

www.benclarkmusic.org

https://twitter.com/blcofficial

https://www.facebook.com/benclarkandthelongshadows/

https://benclark.bandcamp.com/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyhd5JEnZXxJVi7aefjyIvw

https://soundcloud.com/blcofficial

--The Circus In Winter: The Musical--

http://circusinwinter.com/

https://www.facebook.com/CircusinWinter/

--Skin And Bones: A New Musical by Ben Clark and Andrew Kramer--

https://www.facebook.com/Skinandbonesmusical/

https://soundcloud.com/skin-bones-musical

***Featured Music***

Thug – from Time and Miles Apart EP

Cold Feet – from Time and Miles Apart EP

Deal 'Em Out – from The Circus In Winter: The Musical

Overgrown – from Skin And Bones: A New Musical by Ben Clark and Andrew Kramer

Creep (Radiohead cover) – from Ben Clark's YouTube page